Thanks ladies But i would like to say that it was Lesley's idea, i wasn't stepping on any ones toes, I'm pleased to help out Lesley when ever she needs some help on here, like we all say, this is a great forum, and we are all on here for one reason, i know there was a misunderstanding lately, but let's hope we can put all this behind us and make this one of the best forums on the web, so we may have more members who would like to come and join us, and one that Nic would be proud to read if he ever passes by